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Re: Weapons
« Reply #30 on: Nov 6th, 2009, 10:56pm » |
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on Nov 6th, 2009, 10:28pm, Idony wrote:You can't compare an automatic with a heavy caliber weapon like an Anaconda or Desert Eagle  The vampire could, with the benefit of Celerity and Stamina, avoid being hit as much as possible, even if sustaining damage, and rush the attacker.
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Why would I compare the two? Doesn't make a difference. A single shot still moves faster than the speed of sound.
And 5.56 x 45mm ammo is pretty damn heavy for an automatic pistol.
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Re: Weapons
« Reply #31 on: Nov 6th, 2009, 10:58pm » |
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And yet my vampire could kill yours quite easily >.> How does that work?
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Re: Weapons
« Reply #32 on: Nov 6th, 2009, 11:50pm » |
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It doesn't really matter what happens in a fight.. Only that the stronger one wins.
Roleplay weapons how you want to. Have fun. Dodge bullets till the cows come home!
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Re: Weapons
« Reply #33 on: Nov 7th, 2009, 12:09am » |
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on Nov 6th, 2009, 10:58pm, Idony wrote:| And yet my vampire could kill yours quite easily >.> How does that work? |
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Cause...cause.... 
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Re: Weapons
« Reply #34 on: Nov 7th, 2009, 05:34am » |
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on Nov 6th, 2009, 9:35pm, Liander wrote:I think it's about time someone lays down the law on weapons.
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We will. But there are other things we are currently discussing, so anything said here will be only for the sake of debating amoungst yourselves. When a poll is made regarding weapons, none of the things proposed here will be entered into it, so you're all kinda wasting your breath right now. Save it for the Democratic board discussion.
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Re: Weapons
« Reply #35 on: Nov 7th, 2009, 05:39am » |
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on Nov 6th, 2009, 9:35pm, Liander wrote:When I RP Liander, I don't RP him carrying around vials or scrolls. He has guns. Lots and lots of big ass guns.
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Then people try to bitch at me. "Guns can't hurt vampires, blah, blah, blah."
I tell them to shove it up their ass.
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Until we decide otherwise, you can roleplay Liander causing damage in any way that a Human might be damaged (but not killed). In-game weapons are merely a reprisentation of damage dealt (cos how stupid is it that they don't sell swords and uzis?), not a constraint on what weapons your character can and can't use. Of course the in-game weapons also exist, but logically so do guns. And gunshot wounds, even for a vampire, take time to heal.
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Re: Weapons
« Reply #36 on: Nov 7th, 2009, 05:42am » |
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on Nov 6th, 2009, 10:03pm, Idony wrote:| If there were proof, I'd gladly accept it. But as it is, there's no evidence. |
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The evidence is a holy water thrown in game used as a reprisentation for a gunshot.
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Re: Weapons
« Reply #37 on: Nov 7th, 2009, 07:48am » |
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on Nov 6th, 2009, 10:20pm, Idony wrote:| I'm not saying they could outrun a bullet; they could dodge one though. And if I'm not mistaken, that's one of the abilities in the WW games (or at least in the VTMB video game). |
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So, you can dodge a bullet, but not a vial of HW? *crinkles nose* In a live fight, Idony holds her own, I'm aware, but shes still obviously been hit since shes been in the obits....not to mention Liander said pretty clearly that his bullets had HW in them- so what's the big deal if he tosses his HW with a gun, or throws them?
I'm ok with any way someone wants to rp the fight so long as it can be done in the grid. I dont mind having HW shot or thrown or cracked over Pea's head- so long as it makes contact in the game itself. Adding little twists like that make it all the more fun.
It's no different than us adding scenery, or items we carry (like cell phones, or the like) that we dont actually have in the game. I mean as far as the bite is concerned we are all sitting at computers from our house- and if you don't have a house in the city but rp being in one- who says Liander can't use guns to spray his HW?
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Re: Weapons
« Reply #38 on: Nov 7th, 2009, 08:03am » |
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Quote:| So, you can dodge a bullet, but not a vial of HW? *crinkles nose* In a live fight, Idony holds her own, I'm aware, but shes still obviously been hit since shes been in the obits....not to mention Liander said pretty clearly that his bullets had HW in them- so what's the big deal if he tosses his HW with a gun, or throws them? |
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What do you mean she can't dodge HW? Ever heard of fake stepping? She made Upir waste 17 HW in their first live fight alone.
Also, I said that if the guns shot holy bullets or something along those lines, I would consider that a hit, with one bullet = 1 HW in game (and unless I fight the person IG first, I don't RP a fight).
The only argument I brought was the one against simple, normal bullets. They'd do some damage, but I wouldn't consider it crippling at all.
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Re: Weapons
« Reply #40 on: Nov 7th, 2009, 12:29pm » |
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One One short more than I hit you with, on average. Two the second time.
And damn right; that wasn't a live fight when you were just running around :|
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Re: Weapons
« Reply #41 on: Nov 7th, 2009, 12:43pm » |
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on Nov 7th, 2009, 12:20pm, upir wrote:| So far I'm leaning towards what David said; you can hit with whatever weapon you want, and it's represented IG with HW/GS/SoT. You could also discuss things with whoever you're RPing with if you want to do something more complicated like a shootout or whatever. |
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I, as per usual, contest that >.> Guns hurt people, HW hurts vamps. If we have to RP them taking serious damage from guns (the same as HW and GS cause serious damage) then at least make it reasonable for what they are. I suggest that gunshot damage be the equivalent of hitting a 1330+ vamp with GS and a vamp under 1330 with HW.
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Re: Weapons
« Reply #42 on: Nov 7th, 2009, 1:00pm » |
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on Nov 7th, 2009, 12:43pm, Idony wrote:| I, as per usual, contest that >.> Guns hurt people, HW hurts vamps. If we have to RP them taking serious damage from guns (the same as HW and GS cause serious damage) then at least make it reasonable for what they are. I suggest that gunshot damage be the equivalent of hitting a 1330+ vamp with GS and a vamp under 1330 with HW. |
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Guns blow fucking holes through things. Having extra holes put in you will hurt. Always. Holes made by burning hot lead... hot as in fire... fire hurts vampires, right? Right. Cause fire hurts everything. Like a flying hot shard of metal tearing through flesh and bone at around 1000 feet per second (depending on caliber)
Edit to add: Vampires bodies are the same as human bodies when it comes to tissue and bone density. Vampires are not made of titanium ally. They're made of flesh and bone, which gets torn to shreds by flying projectiles of hot lead.
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Re: Weapons
« Reply #43 on: Nov 7th, 2009, 1:14pm » |
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So it works to take into consideration that they're occult creatures on the one hand, but they sustain damage like humans on the other hand? Convenient to have it both ways, I guess
Whatever, man. Write it how you like. I don't use guns in writing for this game, so in the end I guess it's not really my business anyway.
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Re: Weapons
« Reply #44 on: Nov 7th, 2009, 1:21pm » |
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on Nov 7th, 2009, 1:14pm, Idony wrote:So it works to take into consideration that they're occult creatures on the one hand, but they sustain damage like humans on the other hand? Convenient to have it both ways, I guess
Whatever, man. Write it how you like. I don't use guns in writing for this game, so in the end I guess it's not really my business anyway. |
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It's not both ways, it's basic physics. If you have a body, it hurts to have bullets in it. Damnit.
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